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	<title>Comments on: Coda &amp; Espresso</title>
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		<title>By: quicklycode</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconchisel.com/reviews/desktop-applications/coda-espresso/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>quicklycode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Espresso cheat sheet:
http://www.quicklycode.com/cheatsheets/espresso-shortcuts-cheat-sheet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Espresso cheat sheet:<br />
<a href="http://www.quicklycode.com/cheatsheets/espresso-shortcuts-cheat-sheet" rel="nofollow">http://www.quicklycode.com/cheatsheets/espresso-shortcuts-cheat-sheet</a></p>
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		<title>By: Silicon Chisel</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconchisel.com/reviews/desktop-applications/coda-espresso/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Silicon Chisel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Espresso is still a bit rough and I&#039;m concerned that there&#039;ve been no updates in a couple of months. FTP works fine for me - except sometimes when I&#039;m working from a hotel room. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve had an issue with MAMP, but I don&#039;t remember for sure - I usually proof things in Firefox because of all the tools I have loaded in there.

That &quot;save&quot; button on the server settings annoys the hell out of me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Espresso is still a bit rough and I&#8217;m concerned that there&#8217;ve been no updates in a couple of months. FTP works fine for me &#8211; except sometimes when I&#8217;m working from a hotel room. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve had an issue with MAMP, but I don&#8217;t remember for sure &#8211; I usually proof things in Firefox because of all the tools I have loaded in there.</p>
<p>That &#8220;save&#8221; button on the server settings annoys the hell out of me too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonio Loewald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonio Loewald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting read, but I think you&#039;re being too generous to Espresso.

I&#039;ve been a Coda user from day one and I also got Espresso via MacHeist. Sadly, I&#039;ve found Espresso virtually useless despite being very promising in many ways. Its CSS editor is nice, of course, but I have CSSEdit, which has the virtue of not having Espresso&#039;s other non-functional features. FTP access remains twitchy (and I don&#039;t know how many times I&#039;ve typed in access details and then lost them because I forgot to click the save widget), while there&#039;s zero support for obvious use cases like local hosting (there&#039;s simply no way to convince Espresso to preview a file via MAMP, say). And finally Espresso&#039;s autocomplete is horribly broken.

Espresso has taken a very clever approach to embracing existing defacto standards (it can use TextMate&#039;s language bundles, for example). But somehow it just fails to be useful because every single thing it does seems not to work quite right -- in pretty much exactly the way Coda does work right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read, but I think you&#8217;re being too generous to Espresso.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Coda user from day one and I also got Espresso via MacHeist. Sadly, I&#8217;ve found Espresso virtually useless despite being very promising in many ways. Its CSS editor is nice, of course, but I have CSSEdit, which has the virtue of not having Espresso&#8217;s other non-functional features. FTP access remains twitchy (and I don&#8217;t know how many times I&#8217;ve typed in access details and then lost them because I forgot to click the save widget), while there&#8217;s zero support for obvious use cases like local hosting (there&#8217;s simply no way to convince Espresso to preview a file via MAMP, say). And finally Espresso&#8217;s autocomplete is horribly broken.</p>
<p>Espresso has taken a very clever approach to embracing existing defacto standards (it can use TextMate&#8217;s language bundles, for example). But somehow it just fails to be useful because every single thing it does seems not to work quite right &#8212; in pretty much exactly the way Coda does work right.</p>
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		<title>By: Silicon Chisel</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconchisel.com/reviews/desktop-applications/coda-espresso/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Silicon Chisel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a developer&#039;s standpoint, though, it&#039;s a *nix environment. Cash, sed, awk, grep, ls, etc. are all there. I guess I should have said &quot;*nix&quot; instead of &quot;Linux&quot;. Ah well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a developer&#8217;s standpoint, though, it&#8217;s a *nix environment. Cash, sed, awk, grep, ls, etc. are all there. I guess I should have said &#8220;*nix&#8221; instead of &#8220;Linux&#8221;. Ah well.</p>
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		<title>By: Eno</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconchisel.com/reviews/desktop-applications/coda-espresso/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Eno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Mac OS X is not a Linux environment. It is more like FreeBSD than Linux. Since Linux and FreeBSD are both based on Unix, some of the commands are similar or the same, but they are completel different beasts under the hood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Mac OS X is not a Linux environment. It is more like FreeBSD than Linux. Since Linux and FreeBSD are both based on Unix, some of the commands are similar or the same, but they are completel different beasts under the hood.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.siliconchisel.com/reviews/desktop-applications/coda-espresso/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! And thanks for the review--very helpful and timely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! And thanks for the review&#8211;very helpful and timely.</p>
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		<title>By: Silicon Chisel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silicon Chisel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Coda for $50 is a complete no-brainer - you&#039;d spend that on something like Versions just for a SVN client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Coda for $50 is a complete no-brainer &#8211; you&#8217;d spend that on something like Versions just for a SVN client.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also got Espresso as part of MacHeist. Didn&#039;t think I&#039;d need Coda, but now they&#039;ve got me looking at it with this three-day 50% off deal. Would I be correct to assume that you would call Coda for $50 a no-brainer as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also got Espresso as part of MacHeist. Didn&#8217;t think I&#8217;d need Coda, but now they&#8217;ve got me looking at it with this three-day 50% off deal. Would I be correct to assume that you would call Coda for $50 a no-brainer as well?</p>
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